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PEEP THE PET PEEVES

Help me out here, fellas. Why do so many of you feel the need to screw up so badly, so early? What compels you to piss us off, or worse, turn us off, before we even get the chance to get turned on? Do you know how hard it is to meet a guy we want to give our number to and then five seconds after we do you blow it so brazenly, so stupidly? It just boggles the mind.

Now despite my reprimanding tone, don’t think of this as another male bashing session, because it’s not. Think of this “swift kick in the ass,” as a helpful guide on how better to get laid. That is what you’re all after, isn’t it? Sure we can dress it up real pretty and say you’re looking to find the mother of your children, but how do you get those children? By having sex. Some of you may play the “I’m looking for someone to share my life with” card, which sounds sweet but if that’s all you want, get a dog or call your mom more often. But we all know that in the quiet of the night, when you feel like “getting busy” unless you’re a total pervert, neither of them will do, which brings us right back to men wanting a woman in their life so they can get laid on the regular. And I’m not mad, because truth be told, when you get laid, we get laid and when we get laid…the world is a much better place.

So in the interest of all mankind and since you never get a second chance to make a good first impression, I’ve compiled a list of three pet peeves men should not do before, on, or immediately after the first date. Please know there are plenty far more egregious transgressions that could and should go on the list (ladies feel free to hit me up with any you’d like to share), but I’d thought we’d start small…stick with changes that are painless…and doable.

Pet Peeve #1
Don’t ask us to cook for you on a first date. It’s rude, it’s presumptuous. It’s the equivalent of a woman meeting a man and then immediately requesting he come over and paint her living room, while she watches from the couch. Cooking requires work (planning, shopping, cleaning up) just like painting (taping, priming, cleaning up). What about that is sexy?

Whether intended or not, asking for a first date home cooked meal screams a) you’re too cheap or too broke to spring for dinner and/or b) you’re too lazy or unimaginative to come up with a decent restaurant. I don’t want a cheap, broke, lazy, unimaginative dude lying up in my bed. Not that I haven’t had a cheap, broke, lazy, or unimaginative dude lying up in my bed, but he/they had the decency to let me fall for them before revealing their true identities. Timing is everything, guys.

For those hard-headed types still thinking you have the right to know upfront if a babe can or is willing to cook, because after all–you grew up in a house where your mom “stuck her foot in it” every night, I say to you–I grew up in a house where my dad paid the mortgage every month. If you show up at my place, check in hand, trust

and believe I will gladly cook the best first date meal of your life. Hell, throw in some cash for my HOA’s and I’ll throw on some heels and dance around for you in between courses.

Now if a woman volunteers to cook a first date dinner, by all means accept the invitation, but beware. She’s auditioning big time and your acceptance of this offer implies you’re open to the idea of casting her as your wifey, girlfriend, bottom ho, something that requires a commitment. Just so you know.

Pet Peeve #2
Texting in lieu of actual conversation. Look, if we meet electronically, then sure, up until our first date, it’s cool, cute even to continue the tradition. But if we meet at a bar and chat it up for a few and I decide to give you my phone number, I’m expecting you to CALL me. We don’t have to talk long or often, but it’s important we TALK. There’s a spontaneity to conversation that texting doesn’t permit. You can edit or erase a text before it’s sent, but it’s not so easy to take back words you’ve already said. Good or bad. Once we get to know each other and I know your LOL’s are sincere and that you know the word is really “because” and not “cuz”…text away. Until then, think of texting as foreplay. It’s a nice thing to do, necessary even, a great way to switch things up, but it shouldn’t ever take the place of the real thing.

Pet Peeve #3
This might be a little silly and maybe something I alone am bothered by, but is it too much to ask for you to put on a pair of real shoes for our first date? My God, I spent the afternoon having hot wax spread on places that hot wax should really never go and then having to sit still as my hair is yanked out by the roots, by an Asian woman who felt the need to constantly remind me how thick my hair is, as if I couldn’t feel how thick it is. After this indignity, I will stuff my girls inside an underwire demi cup bra that while frilly and sexy and makes the girls stand at perfect attention, will cut into the top of my ribcage and shoulders by the night’s end. After that I’ll stuff my bootie inside a pair of Spanx, which will make me look svelte beyond belief but will also stop the flow of blood to my midsection. Finally I’ll stuff my feet into a pair of three inch stilettos that again are sexy as hell, but painful to boot. And then to have you show up at my door in some comfortable tennis shoes? F*&% you!

I’m not asking for a lot, really I’m not–just a nice meal, some stimulating conversation and shoes without rubber soles, all of which could just possibly lead to the world being be a better place, if you know what I mean.

Tamara T. Gregory is a writer/producer/traveler. Happily single (yes, there really is such a thing), she is an expert on the dating game. Her debut novel,Passport Diaries, is an LA Times bestseller and is soon to become a Hollywood motion picture. The book is available at www.passportdiaries.com. Gregory’s X…WHY blog is exclusive to Urban Thought Collective.


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August 19th, 2008 at 10:29 pm Tawnie says:

OMG I thought I was the only one who ran across chump after chump who had the nerve to form they mouth to ask me to COOK! Literally Tamara this has happened to me like 4 times in the last few years. Its like a frickin epidemic. I think they think its manly or cute. NOT!

August 19th, 2008 at 11:09 pm Diane Brown says:

Amen to that! Especially #1.

August 19th, 2008 at 11:36 pm Janine Barrois says:

#3 DID YOU DATE MY HUSBAND?

August 20th, 2008 at 12:12 am kamalp says:

i always trip on everything ladies have to do to look good. i be thinkin it au naturale and i always get caught with my hands in a weave! try that on for pet peeve.

August 20th, 2008 at 12:22 am RENEP says:

#2
#2
#2
Texting is evil!

August 20th, 2008 at 7:13 am lolalove says:

Don’t leave us no more girl - you know I need my fix. Whenever I read your stuff I put my man on ‘do right’ notice! LOL

August 20th, 2008 at 7:54 am tamaratgreg says:

kamalp-you got me on the weave pet peeve. Very funny.

August 20th, 2008 at 8:23 am Sheba Babee says:

I missed this!
Girl you ain’t neva lied — these men out here are still looking for mommie and going the extra mile is like a foreign concept!

August 20th, 2008 at 8:49 am Philip Giddings says:

Ok I’m trying to read this with an open mind. And ok, some of your points are good. I appreciate the perspective and the ‘no man bashing’ aspect. But, what do you expect from us!

August 20th, 2008 at 9:01 am Krista Wills says:

I mean, a white t and some crisp jeans and they are out the door! some equality is definitely in order!
You are so funny I love how you break it down

August 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am culturepop says:

Point well taken, young lady. It is a shame that cats can’t get their mind around all that the ladies do to look lovely and presentable for us. We could meet you halfway. So I say again, you need the charms of an older, wiser man my dear!

August 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am Ashley says:

Where have you been?! We have missed you. This entry is soooo funny and oh so true. Welcome back Tamara. LMAO!

August 20th, 2008 at 9:22 am Jessica Hubbard says:

The texting is so out of hand ya’ll. Used to be when someone calls you could catch their voice right away - not no mo!
If it wasn’t for caller ID i wouldn’t know anyone. Communication is like so outdated now and that’s a cryin shame! Besides, where in hell are you texting me FROM anyway???

August 20th, 2008 at 9:29 am Tina says:

I could not agree with you more on all points. So funny and so true. Especially the tennis shoes on a first date thing, come on guys step it up a notch.

August 20th, 2008 at 11:12 am thelma says:

Hilarious and so true. I mean, don’t brotha’s rock the wingtips anymore! LOL — but seriously, a little more effort wouldn’t hurt

August 20th, 2008 at 1:40 pm Kali Love says:

Tamara, every time I read your blog I can hear your voice in my head and it cracks me up even more!

August 20th, 2008 at 1:57 pm nicq says:

not feeling it..especially number 3. thats your decision to do all that…we dont ask for that…thats what you all expect us to want..maybe we want yall to have on a frsh pair of Nikes and a nice blouse…so if you wanna take it there..we can ask why we have to take yall to the most expensive restaurrant on the first date and let you all order 3 shrimps for 40 dollars?

August 20th, 2008 at 2:07 pm Nicole Malave says:

@Nicq that is so not the point! The point is that some real effort goes a long way… the cooking this is totally rude! Ya’ll better reconize LOL

August 20th, 2008 at 2:09 pm msbettysdaughter says:

LOL…Can the church say amen!!!! Enough said Ms. Tamara and you said a mouth full…I will definitely have the share “Peep The Pet Peeves”..I too am Happily Single but Celibate…too many rubber soles been walking in my life…LOL

August 20th, 2008 at 2:15 pm Stephanie says:

Pet peeve #1 gets me everytime. Even my friends offer up my cooking services to guys I don’t know. It is crazy!

August 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm Rev. Najuma says:

great pet peeves…especially #2, the whole text things is just outta control!!!

August 20th, 2008 at 3:58 pm buttabrown says:

A sight for sore eyes Ms. Gregory! It has been a month of sundays girl. Not a moment too soon. I’m about to print this out and post on my boyfriend’s (soon to be ex) refrigerator! Cuz he fits the bill for all three of these!

August 20th, 2008 at 4:11 pm just2bee says:

@Nicq typical man!
Now, if we don’t do all that then no one checks for us. And if we DO, we’re high maintenance. Ya’ll don’t know what you want!

August 20th, 2008 at 5:04 pm Lottie Markus says:

you hit the nail on the head, the bow on the arrow and the sauce on the steak! tell it tamara

August 20th, 2008 at 5:16 pm chica22 says:

Allow me to add my pet peeve. How about - WHY DO YOU SMILE? WHY YOU NOT SMILING? etc etc etc. Um, don’t worry about the state of my smile okay? I don’t need to walk around smiling all the time, jack. UUUUGGGHH! Thats my PET PEEVE! You don’t get to inquire about my smile status unless the mortgage is in both our names, OO-KAY?

August 20th, 2008 at 5:18 pm Crystal Birch says:

I wasn’t expectin # 3 but that is so true. If I come home with a sore pinky toe one more time I’m gonna scream! While he chills in his Air Force Ones.. argh

August 20th, 2008 at 5:40 pm tamaratgreg says:

Nicq-Forty $ shrimp dinners are a third date type thing, everybody knows that. I’m working on first date women pet peeves, but since I don’t date women, I’m a little slow with it.

August 20th, 2008 at 7:03 pm Chip says:

Really, this is all I need to do to get laid?? Buy real shoes? Why didn’t you tell me this when I was fifteen? By the way, my Chucks feel both hurt and threatened, kind of like an American sprinter staring at Usain Bolt’s back.

August 20th, 2008 at 9:40 pm Kenneth Boston says:

Spanx are evil. Not for ladies. For us. I been fooled. I’ll leave it at that. I been fooled.

August 20th, 2008 at 10:22 pm tamaratgreg says:

Once again, the fellas are right. Spanx are evil.

August 21st, 2008 at 9:48 am Jane Kennedy says:

@Kenneth you are crazy! Spanx have saved my life many a nite for real

August 21st, 2008 at 9:53 am Elsa Harkins says:

I get they WHY YOU NOT SMILING thing too Chica. Annoying.
Great points Tamara. Way to represent.
And while Spanx are evil they are also VERY NECESSARY! LMAO.

August 21st, 2008 at 10:20 am culturepop says:

if it wasn’t for that link i would know what the heck a spanx was! is it a new kinda girdle. I say ladies do what you gotta do!

August 21st, 2008 at 10:35 am Nu yawk says:

where you at ms gregory i’ll come and get you and the drama will be all ova wit

August 21st, 2008 at 11:29 am ReNina Minter says:

Tamara again you speak the truth. I was just talking about #2 with some of my girlfriends. It is a requirement for me to converse with a man before I go on a date with him. Verbal communication skills are mandatory. Men who text too much get ignored…period.

August 21st, 2008 at 11:41 am Aray says:

Allow me to ask for forgiveness for those tennis shoe wearing, texting momma’s boys. I do have to say these guys sound a bit immature. Anyone man or woman who wears tennis shoes on a first date who is out of high-school is likely immature. Fortunately I believe all my boys have graduated from this behavior, so I think you may be fishing in the wrong lakes. Beyond that, I like your openness to the idea of making the world a better place on the first date, but I have to say that may lead to your next blog… why men don’t commit.

August 21st, 2008 at 12:19 pm Sooth sayer says:

CALL EM OUT!

August 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pm Destah Owens says:

Good insights as usual. I always enjoy reading your thoughts. Two words though…sun dress. But seriously, do the Air Force 1’s and the white-T really come as a surprise?

@Kenneth Boston: Yes..smoke and mirrors.

@Aray: yes, it could be the wrong lake indeed.

August 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pm lilmamma86 says:

LOL OMG girl im totally feelin this 1…fellas..step ur game up plz..and Nicq stop being cheap lol

August 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm sluGGa says:

Mine would be women that don’t know a good thing when its in their face. Men and women and differnt that don’t mean we are that bad come on now unfair

August 21st, 2008 at 4:42 pm MASTA TEE says:

No one knows what they really want until they SEE it
On that note I appreciate a woman getting dressed and taking care to look nice for me. And I will return the favor I’m a grown ass man

August 21st, 2008 at 5:12 pm Mr.Fantastic says:

Imma have to agree with Nicq on this 1…we dont tell yall to get all jazzy..yall stereotype us men to jus wanting so called “high class women”..truth is most of us just want classic basic women

August 21st, 2008 at 7:34 pm UncleD says:

Tamara Gregory, I can agree to avoiding each and every one of these pet peeves. You don’t have to cook, text or put on Spanx for a brothah. Just give me that stare when I come home in my Prada loafers. Deal?

August 21st, 2008 at 8:46 pm tamaratgreg says:

Three for three. The brothas are making me laugh. Uncle D, I swear if ever I’m in Phili, I will take you and your Prada loafers to dinner, my treat.

Culture Pop, I’ll have to give the older man thing a look into, but if it comes down to it, I’ll take tennis shoes over socks and sandals and a cane any day (smile).

August 21st, 2008 at 11:54 pm D says:

Another nice blog, TT. Amen to #2. The problem with texting is that your imagination reads tone into the words that have no meaning other than what they are. I’m cool with #1 because chances are I’d rather take a chance on my food than to go to a fancy restaurant having your date spend a $100 per person and I’m made for him because the service was just okay and the entree is a fancy appetizer. So, my attitude about the whack food would probably spoil the date for me anyway. Ha! As for #3, I’d skip the Prada’s if the guy acts like he gives a bleep in other ways. Did you wash the dang car before I get into it? Did you shave the nose hairs? I’ll take some Nike’s, if you smell good:)

August 22nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm taxgirl says:

You’re still the one!

August 23rd, 2008 at 10:07 am Reggie Williams says:

Sister, I have no problems with your pet peeves, I actually agree with them. But let me give you a “swift kick in the ass.”

The premises for each of your peeves is a screaming green light why you continue to run into such brothers. Sister, light reflect lights. If you continue to run into busters, I would look in the mirror and survey what I was reflecting; it’s possible you may be reflecting darkness. In all those situations (meeting trifling brothers) you are the common denominator.

In your tagline you claim to be a dating expert. It is possible because your expertise is in dating you might not know what is required to find a brother of character.

While you are a DATING expert I’m a marriage expert married to an absolutely beautiful woman. When I measure the character of a woman, my wife is the measuring stick. I say this in love, your spirit reveals you don’t act any better than the brothers who piss you off with your pet peeves.

If you want a different harvest, plant some different seeds in some different soil, and stop making brothers the brunt of your dating woes.

August 23rd, 2008 at 12:33 pm tamaratgreg says:

Mr. Reggie Williams, thanks so much for your kind swift kick. But for the record, I’m a writer and as such I like to listen to what other’s say and then figure out how to say it better in my own words. So, in truth, I have never had a man ask me to cook on the first date, probably because I don’t exactly look like the cooking type, but plenty of my friends have and so I decided to speak on their behalf. In fact, a lot of the things I write about are issues that other women have brought to my attention and I opted to write about it using a first person POV because it’s just more interesting that way. This is not to say that I haven’t experienced some of the things I talk about, write what you know, right? But you need to get in on the joke a little and realize, that when I write, I’m Chaka Kahn “I’m Every Woman” at least for 800 words or so.

August 23rd, 2008 at 1:49 pm Reggie Williams says:

Ms. Greg,

I’m pleased with your response and even more pleased that you are using your voice to speak for other. However, my comments holds firm for those who you are speaking on behalf of.

I spend a lot of time and energy sharing with brothers my thoughts on their poor and detrimental behavior, especially as it relates to black women. But I need for sister to know for all the immaturity brothers deliver at the door, so do too many sisters.

Now understand that I’m not in the tic for tac game. My position is folks must understand that to be in relationship rather than rightship both are required to do some deep cleansing. Everytime my wife does something that is absolutely wrong and I get ready to tell her about her wrong self, God strikes me and says, yes she was wrong about that, however what about this that and that that you were wrong about. After this I can no longer go to her in anger. First I must correct my mess. By correcting my mess prayerfully she will see the change and make her corrections, but if she doesn’t then I can correct her with love.

My point is we are having too hard of time doing this in our community because too many of us are exerting time trying to exhalt personal righteousness while devaluing their faulties; all while calling someone else to task.

But anyway, I appreciate the dialogue and keep doing your thing; much respect.

August 23rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm Reggie Williams says:

Ms, Greg

Please overlook my errors in my last post. I submitted for editing.

August 25th, 2008 at 10:53 am karmellkreem says:

ugh.. i get that ‘why you not smiling’ crap too. I usually tell them it’s because i knew they were gonna try to talk to me. Especially b/c it’s coming from some guy in air force ones. I mean really. Loved this post tho- especially #3. And for the guy talkin bout the weave, what made you think it was ok to put ur hand in someone’s hair? Tamara, that should be pet peeve #4. I get the guys that put their hands in my hair and going, ‘oh, it’s ur REAL hair’. WTF? Until I tell u it’s ok, keep ur hands off.

August 25th, 2008 at 11:17 am Kriss says:

Tam, you’ve done it again! I could not agree with you more about the texting peeve. — Keep writing! Never thought I’d be laughing at 6:17 in the morning…

August 25th, 2008 at 7:50 pm NOMOREFISH4ME says:

WHY DON’T YOU WOMEN JUST LEAVE US GUYS ALONE IF WE’RE SO “TERRIBLE”?? yOU’RE NOT PRIZES EITHER! YOU’RE MORE TROUBLE THAN YOU’RE WORTH(WHICH ISN’T MUCH THESE DAYS). I WOULD MUCH RATHER GO TO THE GYM THAN HAVE SEX OR GO ON A BORING DATE. H*LL, A VAGINA IS ABOUT THE NASTIEST THING ON THE PLANET! IT SMELLS LIKE ROTTING FISH, AND LEAKS JUNK ALL THE TIME, IT EVEN LEAKS “BLOOD” FOR A FREAKIN WEEK!!!!!!AND MEN SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT “GETTING SOME OF THAT”?!! YOU PEOPLE ARE CRAZY??.(AND NO I’M NOT GAY!) WHY DO WOMEN ALWAYS THINK THAT MEN NEED THEM??? AND THAT MEN SHOULD BE “HAPPY” TO GIVE CHASE??? YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FULL OF YOURSELVES. WE REALLY CAN DO WITHOUT YOU! MEN ARE TIRED OF YOU, WE ARE TIRED OF HAVING OUR LIVES AN LIVELYHOOD TAKEN AWAY AND DESTROYED IN THE COURTS, WERE TIRED OF YOUR NAGGING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW WE NEVER TREAT YOU RIGHT ETC. WE’RE TIRED OF YOUR VORACIOUS APPETITE OF WANTING TO BE SO-CALLED “SATISFIED” THAT “NO MAN” WILL EVER MEET! YOU ALL CLAIM “INDEPENDENCE” AND THEN SAY A MAN IS CHEAP IF HE DOESN’T PAY FOR DINNER???!! YOU CLAIM INDEPENDENCE AND WANT TO DATE A MAN?? THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, “INDEPENDENT” AND “RELATIONSHIP” IS AN “OXMORON”!!! I DON’T THINK A “RELATIONSHIP” WILL WORK, IDIOTS!! WE’RE TIRED OF YOUR “REAL MEN” CHANTS AND “BURDENS”, WE ARE TIRED OF BEING OPPRESSED BY YOU, YOU FEEL THAT COOKING (OR DOING ANYTHING FOR A MAN FOR THAT MATTER)IS OPPRESSIVE, WELL, I FEEL THAT TAKING OUT GARBAGE, LIFTING FURNITURE AND GIVING UP MY SEAT SOMEWHERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BIG STOMACH OR CLEANING GUTTERS IS OPPRESSIVE TO “MEN”! YOU BETTER HOPE YOU’RE NOT ON A SINKING SHIP WITH ME!! LADIES FIRST MY A**, NOT IN MY BOOK! WE’RE TIRED OF YOUR “UGLY”, “ARROGANT”, “SELF-SEEKING” ATTITUDES! MAYBE MEN SHOULD START MAKING LISTS AND RULES FOR YOUR DUMB A**ES(LORD KNOWS YOU ALL NEED ONE; IDIOTS!) I’M SURPRISED THAT GUYS ARE STILL TRYING TO DATE YOU PEOPLE; I QUIT ON WOMEN A LONG TIME AGO, THE BEST MOVE I MADE! MEN ARE TIRED AND WOMEN AREN’T WORTH IT. GO AWAY!!!! TAKE YOUR DUMB, “ARROGANT” “RULES FOR MEN” LIST AND SHOVE IT! GO FIND A “GIRL” TO BOTHER. I’M SURE THEY CAN MEET YOUR “REQUIREMENTS”. SIGNED… A “FREE” MAN AND A WOMAN’S WORST NIGHTMARE, A MAN WHO SEES YOU AS EQUAL AND WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT GETTING LAID OR HAVING YOU AROUND.

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